V. Putin: "America is not a banana republic! America is the great power! If I am wrong, let them ["the older comrades" - M.N.] correct me."
I am not your "older comrade", and I have no desire to correct or not to correct you. Because you are a certified liar, from A to Z, and from the top to the bottom. You just have started a cyberwar and were trying to subvert and "putinize" America for years by flooding her with your "witting" and "unwitting" agents of various types and persuasions.
What you are doing is called to make a nice face while playing a bad game ("Делать хорошую мину при плохой игре").
My advice, whatever it is worth:
- Ease the tensions, stop the military shows of force, they just perpetuate the never ending cycles of escalation.
- Cooperate fully in Syria.
- Stop all the interference in the US politics, including the comments on Presidential candidates; in this situation they are inappropriate.
- Stop the cyberwar and the information war.
- Allow the other voices from the Russian leadership and the opposition to be heard, share the center stage with those who have different opinions than you, and who sincerely interested in restoring the US - Russian relations.
- Stop your artful, perverse lying, only the fools believe you.
Putin offered praise for Republican candidate Donald Trump’s strategy. “Trump has chosen his own way of reaching the hearts of the voters,” Putin said. “He is acting extravagantly, but not so pointlessly.” “He represents the interests of the part of the society tired of the elites that have held power for decades,” he added. “He is representing the common people, and he is acting like a common guy himself.”
I am not sure, what anatomical parts exactly Mr. Trump "chose to reach in his own way", but speaking about "the elites that have held power for decades", I think, Mr. Putin is in the need of the good mirror: «Чем кумушек считать трудиться, Не лучше ль на себя, кума, оборотиться?»
If Mr. Trump, as questionably claimed, "is acting like a common guy himself", sharing Putin's and many other politicians' style, as if it were taken from the same cookbook of political populism, it does not mean at all that he represents or plans to represent "the common people", who do not fly their own airplanes very often, do not use their fame and notoriety to engage in pompous grand openings of the grand new hotels during the tense campaigns, do not shamelessly promote their shady business interests with mob connections, and do not try to exchange their TV star status for sexual favors. Apparently, "the point" is, that Putin and Trump share not only these, but many other instances and examples of "acting extravagantly".
Так "Мишка отвечал. Но Мишенькин совет лишь попусту пропал."
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Is there value in Valdai?
Washington Post As I noted on Monday, I'm in Sochi attending the Valdai Discussion Club. In case it was not obvious, this is a Vladimir Putin-approved event — high-profile gatherings like this one that are unapproved by Putin unhappen in Russia. This raises a rather ... and more » |
Is there value
in Valdai?
I'm at a swanky high-level conference put on by the Russian elite. What is to be gained from attending?
Daniel W. Drezner is a professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University and a regular contributor to PostEverything.
As I noted on Monday, I’m in Sochi attending the Valdai Discussion Club. In case it was not obvious, this is a Vladimir Putin-approved event — high-profile gatherings like this one that are unapproved by Putin unhappen in Russia. This raises a rather awkward question for an American during a time of … let’s say “tension” between the two countries. Does the value of attending such a confab outweigh the costs?
The costs are easier to delineate. There is a large public relations component to this meeting, and that component has taken on a bigger dimension in recent years. In the past, a lot more of Valdai was off the record, including the sessions attended by Putin himself. Now everything is televised. Longtime attendees tell me that it also used to be more introspective; in the past, many of the panels covered Russia itself. Now most of the conference is outward-looking, discussing everyone else’s problems. Russia Today (RT) is interviewing every American they can find, including me in a few days. There is an obvious risk that participation confers greater legitimacy on a government that has been accused of some less-than-legitimate activities as of late.
The benefits are harder to specify. In part, this is because some of the value-added accrues only to me and not to thee. Last night I somehow found myself sharing a healthy amount of food and drink with some former G-20 policy principals. Priceless anecdotes about former heads of state were shared, as were some interesting observations about the prospect of great power politics following the U.S. election. But I can’t provide any more specifics than that because it was all off the record. Indeed, I feel cheap even teasing you about it.
One possible public good to proffer is the one David Rothkopf has used to justify the continuation of Davos:
[T]his meeting is the target of criticism for a reason. It is the granddaddy of the world’s big high-level conferences, and it has an important role to play in the world. People watch it closely; it attracts the skeptical views it draws precisely because it actually makes a difference, whether it is regarding how a leader or policy initiative is viewed by markets or how a particular threat (from climate to regional unrest) might be assessed or addressed.
Valdai matters because it is the highest-profile Russian equivalent to Davos (minus the corporate presence). What Vladimir Putin or Sergei Lavrov or Alexei Kudrin says here is worth observing. For close Russia-watchers — and most of the American attendees fall into that category — observing Valdai is like a physician doing a routine check-up of a patient. The interest is in the year-to-year changes in the official rhetoric, as well as what is said during the coffee breaks.
I am not a close Russia-watcher. Even for generalists such as myself, however, there can be value in listening to official boilerplate. There is even greater value in learning how one’s priors about a country might not match up with what is actually happening in that country. I’ve been genuinely surprised at the free-flowing nature of the conversations here on some very sensitive foreign policy questions. None of this will change official policy — but it is good to hear the thinking behind such policies, as well as the acknowledgment of costs as well as benefits.
As I have noted in the past, sharing a stage with people you disagree with is a good thing so long as you can express that disagreement openly. I have been able to do that here at Valdai. I was asked to envision a world in which the USSR didn’t collapse, because that was “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century,” according to the program. I took great pains to point out the myriad ways that statement was wrong. Mission accomplished.
My attendance at Valdai comes with a few costs. But the benefits are real as well.
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Is there value in Valdai? - The Washington Post
Владимир Путин принимает участие в итоговой пленарной сессии XIII ежегодного заседания Международного дискуссионного клуба «Валдай». Тема заседания в этом году – «Будущее начинается сегодня: контуры завтрашнего мира».
В течение трёх дней более 130 экспертов и политологов из 35 стран мира рассматривают актуальные вопросы развития международных отношений, внутриполитического устройства, экономики, демографии и технологий. Дискуссии, в частности, посвящены мерам по смягчению последствий радикальных изменений на политической карте мира и кризиса демократических процедур, обсуждению путей развития отношений России и ЕС, устройства глобального мира через 10 лет.
В работе итоговой сессии также принимают участие бывшие президенты: Финляндии – Тарья Халонен, Австрии – Хайнц Фишер и ЮАР – Табо Мбеки.
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V. Putin looks really very unhappy, sad and angry these days: his bromance buddy Trump is in trouble. The game is almost over, and no other trump cards are left, unless he pulls off some extraordinary stunt, like leaking the tons of hydrochloric acid from the sabotaged fire hydrants around Trump Tower and all over Manhattan.
We have learned from some confidential sources about the recent, urgent, and secret meeting in the Kremlin. This information was confirmed by the obtained videotape which showed the two persons who looked amazingly like Putin and Medvedev. But since we cannot be completely sure about it, we will call them simply "Vovchik" and "Dima".
First, there were some sounds of loud music and broken glass, and then, after some arguments, the pair started reviewing their own videotape. The picture wasn't very clear, but one of the voices sounded amazingly similar to Mr. Trump's, and the other was a raspy and stuttering female voice, to which the first one referred to as "Mother Russia".
Here is the transcript:
Trump: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing!"
Mother Russia responds: "O.K., sonny, I've heard you; we'll do. We will do anything to get you elected, the whole world knows this. Don't you ever doubt me, my boy, yeah! Didn't I find a good new wife for you? And don't you worry about the costs either, we will put them on your credit account, you can pay it back later, at our convenience... Because you are my kind!"
Trump, making some strange movements, like pulling on something which looked amazingly like some piece of pinky "pussy bow", and murmuring pensively: "Finally! I have nothing to loseexcept my capitalist GOP shackles! This is my last and the most decisive battle! The Oligarchs of the World, unite! Putin, if you hear me, leak, leak, leak!Leak more! Right on their heads! And keep whispering your sweet Melania somethings into my ears at night, just like this one, my favorite mantra: "Oh, wouldn't it be nice to get along with Russia, Trumpik?" I feel like the two of them, Vladimir and Melania have merged into The One. It's so erotic, I have no need to grab pussiesno more..."
And then we hear the heated discussion between those two who looked amazingly like the Kremlin pair.
"What a moron! Did you here that?", Vovchik raged. "That capitalistic zhlob could not even put in some extra $100M of his own money into his campaign, as he promised. He wants to get it on a cheap, counting on my help and my money, and where would I get them, I'm broke! The banks are almost bust, all those greedy oligarchs fled to London, and I can't even lend him anything, everyone would see it, they screened all my panamas with their fat-cat-scans. I'm as transparent as this shard of glass from a broken vodka bottle! Those amateurs, I will never sit down at the table to play with them again! He is not a trump, he is a shestyorka! He is not an oligarch, he is just an imposter! Why did I call him "bright and talented"? I should've said that he is a stupid, bigoted, crass, half-demented, arrogant jackass, that he really is. That's how I would get him elected!"
"Well, let us wane a bit philosophical, Dima tried to calm him down. "We have to deal the hand we've got. It's not our fault. That megalomaniac Assange over-leaked, as if he had
somewiki-incontinence. We should have given him a different medication. All those Aussies are so over-shirtfronted, just like their cangurus, stuffing themselves up with our extra megabytes. No finesse, no discretion."
"And whose idea was it in a first place?" Vovchik continued to rage. "Couldn't our idiots-snoops find someone more suitable?! What to do now? Hillary will kill me now, she is a very vindictive woman."
"Don't worry", Dima said. "I will talk her out of it. I know how to talk to people. We'll give them something, like the drilling rights in the Red Square. They dug those holes there with their crazy mini-drones all over the place anyway, and claim that it is to open the new channels of communication. We'll open our own new channels too."
"Come on", Vovchik said. "You talked to Obama, and then called him stupid, that's what set him off. He is a very sensitive guy, just doesn't show it. He doesn't forget these things easily, just pretends to. No, we need a big strategic pivot."
Dima: "All right, then we'll try something else, like a joint expedition to Mars, for example. Sounds nice: "Russians and Americans are conquering the planet of war in search for peace!"
"Bullshit!", Vovchik said. "The Europeans just crashed there. If this one crashes too, they will say, it's a bad omen, and now they will go to war. You just love your castles, especially in the air. Stay closer to the subject, think Trump and Hillary, find a solution. Do a brainstorm, just close that window, so it wouldn't leak out."
Dima: "We can always send our double, replace Trump, and manage our guy by microwaves from the embassy. This way we'll have a direct control, and our Trump-double will at least stop fibbing and making his daily "I love Putin" confessions, that what turns people off."
Vovchik: "Dmitriy, you are just jealous, and besides that, it is obvious that you didn't have a proper KGB training like me. They will block those microwaves easily, they already do. And they will flip him over, they always do. And besides, those "love confessions", as you call it, is the best part of his campaign, at least the most sincere one. We always had some strong attraction to each other. Although it wouldn't hurt, if he lost some weight.
Can you imagine this, Hillary accused us of a "horseplay"! What kind of innuendo is this? Just listen to it: "Donald really is as healthy as a horse – you know, the one that Vladimir Putin rides around on." "Horseplay"? It would look more like a "hogplay"!
Oh, yeah, put some lipstick on that pig! Women always do that.
We should have met some thirty years ago when I was on my spying trip in New York, in some gay club or something, I remember, it was called "Studio 54". I liked it. Maybe, we could even build a stable relationship. But it's too late now."
"Vladimir Vladimirovich!" Dima blushed in anger. "I thought that the two of us have a stable relationship!"
"Don't get all worked up over it, Dima", said Vovchik. "With you, it's purely Platonic, like a father and son almost, with him it would be romantic, but most importantly, a part of my job. It is always a double mint gum when you do it for business. But it's all over now, I am so disgusted with that fat blob, I can't even look at him. He self-destructed the whole operation and compromised us all. I cannot deal with that loser. Now he is toxic and untouchable. The best thing we can do with him is to get him to form his own party. We will call it "The United People Front - USA", just like our Russian United Front, it will be our sister party. But even this will not save the situation. We have to find a strategic solution."
"What solution?" Dima scratched his head and looked lost and confused.
Vovchik: "I know what solution. I have to resign, and you will have to take over."
"Vladimir Vladimirovich!" Dima froze in horror and started to feel panicky.
"Yes, Dima, I will have to resign, and you will have to take over", Vovchik repeated resolutely. "I have to throw myself to the vultures. I have to sacrifice myself for our Mother Russia, nothing less is expected of me. I have to do it. This will be my last good-bye present for her. I will retire, go to America and help that orange-ass moron to start our new
Dima: "You cannot do this, Vladimir Vladimirovich. They will arrest you there as a war criminal. And then they will get us all. We cannot afford to pay the American lawyers, they are very expensive."
Vovchik: "We have to this, Dima. We have to take these risks. If you don't take risks, you don't drink Champaign. And I still have some nice vintage bottles left in my Crimean cellars. I want to uncork them with Donald after our victory, just like we did with Silvio. No pain, no gain. And gain we will, by the hook or by the crook, or both. I'll show them the "color revolutions"! They will have their black-and-white devolution! Trust me, Dima. They said I was meddling. They haven't seen any of my meddlings yet. I'll show them the Kuzka's mother!
There will
bethe lessons to learn from
thisaffair for all of us."
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Published on Oct 27, 2016
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